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Daniel Orizaga Doguim's avatar

I really appreciate Rama's book and every time I read it I find suggestive ideas. However, I am left thinking, in practical terms, about possible alternatives to the city models that were founded. The ordered city model spread across the continent, evidently following European patterns, but it leaves me wondering: what other forms of urban utopias were available? I think we can continue with this collective speculation.

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Niki's avatar

Hi Emma, I really enjoyed reading your posts and I love the pictures you've included! The sentence “the experimental field for the formation of a new Baroque culture” - it reminds me of our discussions about Baroque and folds...if something is folded to be hidden away, it is revealed once again by another fold...this makes me think of 'order' what can be hidden and revealed when building a city off of signs and representations...

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H. Thach Pham's avatar

Interesting to observe the Spanish trying to recreate their cities as a form of utopia when today many would consider utopia to be just the opposite. Less density. More personal space. Getting away from it all. Is society progressing?

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Ana Flechas's avatar

Love the blog Emma! I think the exclusive leadership imagining urbanism prioritizing order can be quite detrimental to urban planning because there is a lack of consideration for the unique geography of the land. It's ironic that the pretence of order for Lima is probably what made the city so disordered as it grew because there was inadequate planning to adapt to the unique ecology and environment of the city. The utopia that tried to be built in Lima was aligned with what would've been ideal for Spanish soil instead of the Peruvian coast, which I think speaks to the spatiotemporal importance of what is a utopia.

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